Phil and Simon met in the mid-nineties and became business partners a few years later. They ran a successful disability training and consultancy firm for ten years. At the end of a working week, they used to stay late to discuss and debate all things disability related. Not always agreeing, often having fun, they used to try and make sense of the complexity of disability. Fast forward twenty years, they decided to recreate those discussions with current topics, more experience and a microphone. The conversations are lively, funny and occasionally edgy.
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